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KET

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Blue Beetle

Subj: Re: Bring Back Supergirl
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 at 07:52:17 pm EST
Reply Subj: Re: Bring Back Supergirl
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 at 08:16:51 am EST

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> > > >The original Supergirl was classic. I would love to have her back. But at least the one we have is Kryptonian, is Superman's cousin, arrived on Earth as a teen-ager, is blonde, and wears the red, yellow, and blue. I'm thankful we have that much.
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> > > So a Kryptonian Supergirl is more important to you than a well-written one? Interesting.
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> > Writers come and go. The poor writing is ending now that a good writer is taking over.
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> And as you just pointed out, writers come and go. Inevitably, the "good writer" will "go."


And then I'll either continue with the new writer or I'll quit the title. Either way, Supergirl will be Kryptonian, and I'll be happy. I don't have to buy the comic to be happy. I simply need characters to exist in the form I prefer. If Shakespeare were brought back from the grave to write a non-Kryptonian Supergirl, and Michelangelo brought back to paint each page, I wouldn't be happy.

It's the same with Hal Jordan having returned as Green Lantern. I'm happy Hal is back. I don't like the writing of the book so I don't buy it. But I'm still happy. The DC Universe matches my preference.


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> >What matters long term is the basic design of the character.
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> But the "basic design" of the character is moot if the writing is poor. As the first 20-odd issues of her title have shown, A Kryptonian Supergirl alone does not for good stories make. I'll take a well written non-Kryptonian Supergirl over a poorly written Kryptonian Supergirl any day.


Not me. Good stories are moot if the character design doesn't match my preference. The Pulitzer and the Nobel could be awarded to Peter David for his Matrix Supergirl and I still wouldn't bother with it.


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> > > >Teen-agers have attitudes. This is normal.
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> > > Teenagers can't fly or shoot death beams from their eyes, but that seems to be accepted in the comic book 'verse. Why can abnormal characters have abnormal characterization?
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> > Because realistic characterization is what helps us suspend our disbelief in the face of unrealistic powers.
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> Suspension of disbelief extends to characterizations, as well.


You lost me here. I'm saying the current girl's personality is more realistic than the Silver Age one. Perpetually sweet teen-agers don't exist anywhere in the world.


> > Now I certainly would have accepted a return to the Silver Age Supergirl exactly as she used to exist, but DC didn't give us that. Yet what they gave us is better than anything else they've given us for the last twenty years so I focus on the positive.
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> A post with the subject "Bring Back Supergirl" would seem to indicate otherwise.


Since I didn't originate the subject heading, you lost me here too.


> > > > >The original Supergirl was classic. I would love to have her back. But at least the one we have is Kryptonian, is Superman's cousin, arrived on Earth as a teen-ager, is blonde, and wears the red, yellow, and blue. I'm thankful we have that much.
> > > >
> > > > So a Kryptonian Supergirl is more important to you than a well-written one? Interesting.
> > >
> > > Writers come and go. The poor writing is ending now that a good writer is taking over.


That still remains to be seen. Puckett's first issue read like the prologue for a leftover Cassandra Cain Batgirl story he still had kicking around in inventory. Didn't really fit the character he's NOW writing.




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> > And as you just pointed out, writers come and go. Inevitably, the "good writer" will "go."
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> And then I'll either continue with the new writer or I'll quit the title. Either way, Supergirl will be Kryptonian, and I'll be happy. I don't have to buy the comic to be happy.


That doesn't make any logical sense. If you're not buying into it, why would that make you happy?





> I simply need characters to exist in the form I prefer.


Then CREATE YOUR OWN. Supergirl as a trademark and a character belongs to DC Comics and Warner Bros.; if they change what she is again tomorrow, it's entirely in their right to do so. They don't need your approval.






If Shakespeare were brought back from the grave to write a non-Kryptonian Supergirl, and Michelangelo brought back to paint each page, I wouldn't be happy.
>
> It's the same with Hal Jordan having returned as Green Lantern. I'm happy Hal is back. I don't like the writing of the book so I don't buy it. But I'm still happy. The DC Universe matches my preference.
>
>
> >
> > >What matters long term is the basic design of the character.
> >
> > But the "basic design" of the character is moot if the writing is poor. As the first 20-odd issues of her title have shown, A Kryptonian Supergirl alone does not for good stories make. I'll take a well written non-Kryptonian Supergirl over a poorly written Kryptonian Supergirl any day.
>
>
> Not me. Good stories are moot if the character design doesn't match my preference.


Now that's just silly. Character design is merely just somebody's fashion statement at the time. For example, how many times has Supergirl changed HER look over the years?






>The Pulitzer and the Nobel could be awarded to Peter David for his Matrix Supergirl and I still wouldn't bother with it.


Your loss. His run was leagues above the confused teenager angst tripe the new SG series keeps wallowing in now.



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> > > > >Teen-agers have attitudes. This is normal.
> > > >
> > > > Teenagers can't fly or shoot death beams from their eyes, but that seems to be accepted in the comic book 'verse. Why can abnormal characters have abnormal characterization?
> > >
> > > Because realistic characterization is what helps us suspend our disbelief in the face of unrealistic powers.
> >
> > Suspension of disbelief extends to characterizations, as well.
>
>
> You lost me here. I'm saying the current girl's personality is more realistic than the Silver Age one. Perpetually sweet teen-agers don't exist anywhere in the world.


I would say that you don't know enough teenage girls, then. They don't all model themselves after stereotypical Hollywood tabloid head cases.



KET


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