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Blue Beetle

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KET

Subj: Re: Bring Back Supergirl
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 at 09:48:28 pm EST
Reply Subj: Re: Bring Back Supergirl
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 at 07:52:17 pm EST

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> > > > >The original Supergirl was classic. I would love to have her back. But at least the one we have is Kryptonian, is Superman's cousin, arrived on Earth as a teen-ager, is blonde, and wears the red, yellow, and blue. I'm thankful we have that much.
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> > > > So a Kryptonian Supergirl is more important to you than a well-written one? Interesting.
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> > > Writers come and go. The poor writing is ending now that a good writer is taking over.


That still remains to be seen. Puckett's first issue read like the prologue for a leftover Cassandra Cain Batgirl story he still had kicking around in inventory. Didn't really fit the character he's NOW writing.




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> > And as you just pointed out, writers come and go. Inevitably, the "good writer" will "go."
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> And then I'll either continue with the new writer or I'll quit the title. Either way, Supergirl will be Kryptonian, and I'll be happy. I don't have to buy the comic to be happy.


That doesn't make any logical sense. If you're not buying into it, why would that make you happy?





> I simply need characters to exist in the form I prefer.


Then CREATE YOUR OWN. Supergirl as a trademark and a character belongs to DC Comics and Warner Bros.; if they change what she is again tomorrow, it's entirely in their right to do so. They don't need your approval.






If Shakespeare were brought back from the grave to write a non-Kryptonian Supergirl, and Michelangelo brought back to paint each page, I wouldn't be happy.
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> It's the same with Hal Jordan having returned as Green Lantern. I'm happy Hal is back. I don't like the writing of the book so I don't buy it. But I'm still happy. The DC Universe matches my preference.
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> > >What matters long term is the basic design of the character.
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> > But the "basic design" of the character is moot if the writing is poor. As the first 20-odd issues of her title have shown, A Kryptonian Supergirl alone does not for good stories make. I'll take a well written non-Kryptonian Supergirl over a poorly written Kryptonian Supergirl any day.
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> Not me. Good stories are moot if the character design doesn't match my preference.


Now that's just silly. Character design is merely just somebody's fashion statement at the time. For example, how many times has Supergirl changed HER look over the years?






>The Pulitzer and the Nobel could be awarded to Peter David for his Matrix Supergirl and I still wouldn't bother with it.


Your loss. His run was leagues above the confused teenager angst tripe the new SG series keeps wallowing in now.



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> > > > >Teen-agers have attitudes. This is normal.
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> > > > Teenagers can't fly or shoot death beams from their eyes, but that seems to be accepted in the comic book 'verse. Why can abnormal characters have abnormal characterization?
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> > > Because realistic characterization is what helps us suspend our disbelief in the face of unrealistic powers.
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> > Suspension of disbelief extends to characterizations, as well.
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> You lost me here. I'm saying the current girl's personality is more realistic than the Silver Age one. Perpetually sweet teen-agers don't exist anywhere in the world.


I would say that you don't know enough teenage girls, then. They don't all model themselves after stereotypical Hollywood tabloid head cases.



KET

> > > > Writers come and go. The poor writing is ending now that a good writer is taking over.
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> That still remains to be seen. Puckett's first issue read like the prologue for a leftover Cassandra Cain Batgirl story he still had kicking around in inventory. Didn't really fit the character he's NOW writing.


Hopefully I'll get it in the mail one of these days so I can read it. I get my comics monthly from Westfield and I still haven't received my October books.


> > And then I'll either continue with the new writer or I'll quit the title. Either way, Supergirl will be Kryptonian, and I'll be happy. I don't have to buy the comic to be happy.
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> That doesn't make any logical sense. If you're not buying into it, why would that make you happy?


Because I want the DC Universe to be a certain way. If I get what I want, it makes me happy.


> > I simply need characters to exist in the form I prefer.
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> Then CREATE YOUR OWN. Supergirl as a trademark and a character belongs to DC Comics and Warner Bros.; if they change what she is again tomorrow, it's entirely in their right to do so. They don't need your approval.


Where in this discussion did I imply otherwise?


> > Not me. Good stories are moot if the character design doesn't match my preference.
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> Now that's just silly. Character design is merely just somebody's fashion statement at the time. For example, how many times has Supergirl changed HER look over the years?


Are you interpreting my use of "character design" to mean what the character looks like and nothing more? If so, that's not what I mean. For example, being Kryptonian is a component of Supergirl's character design. Being super strong is another component. Being blonde is another. Being Superman's cousin is another.


> >The Pulitzer and the Nobel could be awarded to Peter David for his Matrix Supergirl and I still wouldn't bother with it.
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> Your loss. His run was leagues above the confused teenager angst tripe the new SG series keeps wallowing in now.


Why do you think I lose something if I don't read some particular comic book? There are hundreds of comics on the shelves. I only read maybe twenty in any given month. Most of the comics published are well written and well illustrated, and I don't read the vast majority of them. Am I suffering loss with respect to each one?


> > You lost me here. I'm saying the current girl's personality is more realistic than the Silver Age one. Perpetually sweet teen-agers don't exist anywhere in the world.
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> I would say that you don't know enough teenage girls, then. They don't all model themselves after stereotypical Hollywood tabloid head cases.


Where in this discussion did I imply that they did? What I said is, perpetually sweet teen-agers don't exist anywhere in the world. I stand by that statement. No teen-ager is perpetually sweet. Hormones have their way with all of them, each to a greater or lesser degree, but at least somewhat in every case.

Meanwhile, I didn't bother reading the prior issues of the Supergirl comic because my sampling gave me the sense that I would be annoyed by the storytelling. I think you and I are on the same wavelength in that respect. Am I right that the storytelling annoyed you?




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