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Kaiser The Great

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Fifthchild

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Subj: Re: Well, if there was ever a reason why I'm glad Superman Returns 'flopped'...
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 at 03:54:07 pm EDT (Viewed 131 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Well, if there was ever a reason why I'm glad Superman Returns 'flopped'...
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 at 01:15:13 pm EDT (Viewed 155 times)

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      WB are in a bad position in terms of Superman. Its hard to reboot something such a short period after a previous film.



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    Hulk? Batman? Punisher?


Well yeah exactly. Hulk and Batman both struggled with the baggage of their previous films. The gap between films was 5 years for Hulk and 8 for Batman Begins. The Hulk reboot ultimately fell in the same middle ground between financial success and failure that Superman Returns did. Batman Begins only really scraped past that line due to the incredible word of mouth and reviews it got because it was a pretty much pitch perfect film. Punisher is hardly worth talking about but a Punisher movie is a cheap film at the end of the day and so there is much less risk. Still Punisher War Zone flopped. If a megabudget film like a Superman movie flops that really hurts.


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      you are talking about an origin movie.
    Who says it has to be an "origin movie"?


Fine it doesnt have to be. But then you have a new Superman movie where Superman doesnt have a kid like the last film which confuses people who did see Superman Returns etc. Its a lot of baggage that an expensive film really doesnt need. Nobody wants to promote a film by telling people to ignore everything that happened in the last film cos it sucked but this time they got it right.
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Just call is SUPERMAN BEGINS, get a whole new set of cast and creators and I think people would catch on. No more homages, no more crystals, no more land obsessed villains, no more Reeves impersonations. A fresh take is what's needed. Burton didn't keep the Bat-Shark-Repellent and Nolan didn't keep the camp. We need new and continuity free for the next generation, because "oh well this takes place after the Donner films from the 70s and 80s, but really after part II because we don't like part III and IV and we're going to ignore that" is more confusing than a SUPERMAN BEGINS film could ever be.


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