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The Silver Surfer

Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
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fuggernaut

Member Since: Sat Oct 23, 2021
Subj: Re: I hate Kryptonians as evil
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 at 08:42:52 am EST (Viewed 83 times)
Reply Subj: I hate Kryptonians as evil
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 at 07:27:36 pm EST (Viewed 122 times)

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Love the three phantom zone CRIMINALS.

Hate the idea that Krypton was an evil place and have the mass of kryptonians essentially be stand-ins for nazis.

From byrne's dystopia, to eradicator, to new krypton, to snyder, to dark knight master race, to superman/lois tv show. . .we have kryptonians as the supremacists who Superman needs to kill.

Don't like it; never liked it. I get that Superman embraces Earth, but it shouldn't be about Superman joyfully crushes his own people; who are all super-evil, btw.

I think calling Byrne's run villains is overstating things.

I don;t personally like the idea that Lara and Jor-El just sent DNA that made a baby on the way.

Krypton has to be arrogant. The planet blows up and nobody believes Jor-El. That is a necessary part of the story. Either they are arrogant, or they are stupid.

Having incredibly powerful technology making them arrogant makes sense, and explains why they would trust it over Jor-El. Because they have become so dependent on the machines, that they would trust them over the human factor.

It has been a while since I read Man of Steel, so I could be missing some details, but I don;t remember it being villainous.

Eradicator is a pretty accurate view of society. Making others change to fit to their perceived better way of life. It is a pretty good sci-fi look at colonialism.

I would say the larger issue is the coincidence of it stumbling on another Kryptonian. If I remember, correctly, Superman stumbled upon it during his space exile, but comics love coincidences.

I'm also not sure I remember him ever taking joy in fighting his own people, as you suggest. Isn't he usually heartbroken by it?

I remember him being pretty crushed by the realization that not only his people were not as he had hoped, but even his own family was doing dark deeds. I can see your point on that one, I'm not sure I agree, but I see teh point.

I never read Dark Knight: Master Race, or have seen Lois and Clark, but Snyder's Krypton was all kinds of dumb.

I fully admit, I hate the Christ allegory people love to shove into Superman. I think having Krypton be a perfect world feeds into that idea. Also, if it is such a perfect world, it should not have doubted Jor-El.


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