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Hatman

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Subj: Re: Must I have words with thee...again...? [SPOILERS]
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 at 06:09:54 pm EDT (Viewed 2 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Must I have words with thee...again...? [SPOILERS]
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 at 02:31:36 pm EDT (Viewed 2 times)

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Howdy Hatman! \:\-\)

> > Firstly, a god amongst gods is less special than a god amongst mortals.

> I rather enjoy the thought of Thor adventuring with Sif, Balder, and the Warriors Three, as mentioned.

As would I, but not as an origin tale.

> > Secondly, if this movie is a precursor to Thor on Earth (say in a sequel) then the Thor of the first movie is a bragging bully (to deserve banishment to Earth). That means Thor of this movie is no hero. In the event that they totally remove the need for Thor to be banished then it poops over so much continuity that you may as well call it Ultimate Thor.

> I think Thor was still a hero to the realm of Asgard before his banishment, otherwise he wouldn't be worthy to carry Mjolnir.

How do you know he WAS able to wield Mjolnir immediately before his banishment?

> > No it sounds like a Lord of the Rings bandwagon jumping, 'Galactus cloud' cop-out that has nothing to do with the Mighty Thor and is simply just Thor.

> Honestly, I would LOVE to see a Thor movie done in the Lord of the Rings style. The warriors of Asgard battling the Frost Giants, or Surtur's forces, in an epic fantasy-style battle would be great!

Of course it would. Simply that it would have nothing to do with the origins of the Mighty Thor.

> That being said, I'd like the movie to end with Thor being sent to Earth, leading into an Avengers movie. If they establish Cap, Thor, and Iron Man ahead of time (and we know Iron Man will be for sure), they can jump straight into an Avengers movie without spending the whole time introducing the characters. They'd have to introduce a couple more Avengers, but the Big 3 who the movie would most likely revolve around would already be established.

Perhaps, although it seems as if Thor has the most to give up for the Avengers.

> > I rather enjoy the thought of Thor adventuring with Sif, Balder, and the Warriors Three, as mentioned.
>
> As would I, but not as an origin tale.
>

I'd like to just jump into a Thor movie without the whole thing building to him being worthy of Mjolnir. The bane of superhero movies is the fact so many of them feel they have to start with the origin tale. Batman didn't need to, and it was one of the greatest comic adaptations ever.

> > I think Thor was still a hero to the realm of Asgard before his banishment, otherwise he wouldn't be worthy to carry Mjolnir.
>
> How do you know he WAS able to wield Mjolnir immediately before his banishment?
>

Well, really, how do you know he wasn't? \:\) We could probably just go back and forth on this one, couldn't we?

> > > No it sounds like a Lord of the Rings bandwagon jumping, 'Galactus cloud' cop-out that has nothing to do with the Mighty Thor and is simply just Thor.
>
> > Honestly, I would LOVE to see a Thor movie done in the Lord of the Rings style. The warriors of Asgard battling the Frost Giants, or Surtur's forces, in an epic fantasy-style battle would be great!
>
> Of course it would. Simply that it would have nothing to do with the origins of the Mighty Thor.
>

Why do we need to start with the origin? I've read Thor: Son of Asgard but I'd rather see him full grown and smiting away.

> > That being said, I'd like the movie to end with Thor being sent to Earth, leading into an Avengers movie. If they establish Cap, Thor, and Iron Man ahead of time (and we know Iron Man will be for sure), they can jump straight into an Avengers movie without spending the whole time introducing the characters. They'd have to introduce a couple more Avengers, but the Big 3 who the movie would most likely revolve around would already be established.
>
> Perhaps, although it seems as if Thor has the most to give up for the Avengers.

Give up? How so? If we get the high fantasy Thor movie first, which could end with Thor banished to Midgard, it's fairly easy to have Loki bringing together the Avengers (with the addition of Captain America to the original roster, which I don't think anyone would complain about, and with the possible deletion of the Hulk).

~Hat~


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