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Subj: Re: Follow up.
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 at 03:28:16 am EST (Viewed 77 times)
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    Question: In my readings apparenlty Loki was not worshiped in ancient times. He was regarded as a supernatural being, but may not have even been regarded as a god. I supposed that would have to do with his place as always an outsider. To smart to be a giant, but not quite an Aesir.

    Regarding modern Asatru, most I have heard do not venerate Loki due to his destructive or very least untrustworthy nature, but I have heard some try and follow him due to Loki being most often a force of change and while his actions may be seen as evil they are often necessary and are for the greater good such as winning the Aesir their most famous treasures or building the wall around Asgard. What is your opinion of this if I may ask?

Well, that's where the New Agers can confuse things a little. Essentially, if someone believes that there's a Blank rune called 'Wyrd' and that Asatru is a Self Help guide, they're barking up the wrong Yggdrasil. These are usually the ones that think every God should be called upon for one reason or another. I mean I'm not going to invoke Njord every time I get in a swimming pool any more than I will seek aid from Loki for lost car keys. ;\)

I've only ever dealt with Thor (as protector and witness to oaths) and Freya (in her role as fertility goddess and matriach of wedding vows).

    How is Odin regarded? From what I understand he is considered to be a grim god with certain.........questionable habits and actions. What, at least from your point of view is your understanding of him if I may ask?

Odinn. Well. He's sorta like not seeing the forest for the trees. His quest is for knowledge and respects it in others (again, why Woden's relationship with him is unlike mine). Ultimately, I've never really dealt with him.

Heh. Creepy. Colbert was just calling to Odin as I was writing this.

    You said: "and that not inviting Freya where she is needed is a grave mistake." Could you please elaborate on this?

Well, in the case of our wedding vows, to only call Thor would have been shortsighted. There has to be balance, and the God/Goddess balance is one of the oldest. Think of it as only paying attention to the yin. It's nothing without the yan to balance it and define it.

    Finally, how is Heimdall regarded? Of all the gods he is the only one I cannot find any real information on how he was regarded by the ancient Norse or even modern Asatru. I know the basic stories and descriptions about him being Odin's son by nine mothers, fathering the races of men, being Loki's adversary, guardian of Bifrost, having gold teeth, etc. But unlike the others I have been unable to find anything he was or is venerated for or what his domain is. I have heard him sometimes referred to as the god of the dawn and light, but is that just due to his association with the rainbow or that he was sometimes described as the "White god" (I think meant to associate with his brightness)

I'd say it's a rainbow thing, seeing as Baldur is more of a Light God archetype. As far as being a White God, that may be a New Age influence, as to refer to something as White meant it was weak or effeminate (Hence the term for Hvitkristr, literally "White Christ" as He represented peace and forgiveness, as opposed to the virility and rage of "Redthorr".)

      I think I understand as well as I can without actually feeling it. Thank you for the description.

      Again, thank you for your time.

    Hope it helped a little. I'm no scholar by any means, but I know what works for me (25 years and counting). (
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