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Subj: G'day AMT, good to see you back.
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 at 03:37:44 am EST (Viewed 71 times)
Reply Subj: Hey DONAR! .......
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 06:42:15 pm EST (Viewed 99 times)
Quote:I really like what you have to say here about every one has there own way of believing in what they decide to believe in so to speak, I know what you mean by having that feeling! Man its so awesome! I've experienced many things to know that there are many forces out there, And Thor is one of them. one of my experences is with my Thor hammer I have around my neck, no matter how many times i've lost it in a fight or a party or misplaced it always came back to me! No matter what! even in times where there was absolutly no trace of it, I know that Thor sensed my distrought over loosing it and had it returned to me, Believe me I have other things I can share but I'd be more comfortable speaking about them as oposed to typing. Any way stay up bro!
I'll do my best to answer honestly, and I take no offense at all.
Quote:Just to start out, my question could be considered of a religious nature, but are not intended to offend, step on, question, or in anyway be regarded as offense, discrimitory, or anything else of a similar nature on your religious views. I am simple curious.
Well, not wanting to asnwer a question with a question, but I think it varies between Asatruar as it does between Christians, Hindus or Muslims. One's relationship with their God/s is bound to differ greatly from another person of the same faith. Some may believe Jesus truly did walk on water and rise from the dead, where others may simply believe His teachings and try to live by them. I personally hold to the belief that each God (and Goddess) may well go by many names, and be aspects of each other. Cernunnos, Odin, Thor and Zeus are all hunters and aspects of Death, where Cerridwen, Jord and Gaea all represent the Goddess, matron of life and creation.
From what I understand of Asatru, they venerate the gods that were worshiped by the ancient Norse and Germanic people who are commonly referred to in popular culture as the Norse gods or Teutonic gods. These gods include, but are not limited to Thor, Odin, Frey, Freya, Frigg, etc.
Something I have long wondered having grown up in a monotheistic upbringing is this: How do you regard such beings?
My relationship with Odin would not the same as my good friend Woden would have, just as his experiences with Thorr would difer from mine.
Suffice to say, we both know not to trust Loki, and that not inviting Freya where she is needed is a grave mistake.
For me, Thorr is a presence that I've felt much of my life. I can't say that I 'see' Him as a red bearded male, because I've really only felt Him with me, which is something quite hard to quantify literally...but I'll try, as crazy as it may sound. His 'moods' vary, but there is always an overwhelming sense of raw power and strength. The best way to describe it would be the feeling you get when lightning strikes close by and the thunder shakes your bones...imagine the feeling after that, but without the thunder to explain it.
For instance Thor: Since Thor is often seen as a protective force against evil/danger/etc do you view Thor has a name given to some type of protective force? Do you believe the view of him as a red-bearded male was a way the ancient Norse attempted to relate to this force, but ultimately that is only a metaphor to link to this force? Do you believe this force has an intelligence behind it or is veneration merely a sign of respect? Or is it that Thor really is a red-bearded male who may reside in another world fighting giants? Is it some combination? Or is it some combination of the two? Do you believe that if he manifest say...in Norway he can only manifest in one place at a time?
I wouldn't say I'm as 'devout' as some because I follow no daily rituals or blots, (I do make an offering on my son's birthday though.) I don't ask for luck or fortune (with the exception of my son's safe birth, hence his name) but I do try to abide by the Nine and honor Him in my actions. Much like Wiccans will see the Goddess in nature, I'm more inclined to see Thorr in His actions. For example..the fact that it rainedthe night/morning my son was born after weeks of a dry spell was Thorr. So were the clouds parting at my wedding at the very second when my wife and I kissed, bathing us in the only beam of sunlight (although she'll claim Gaea helped) .
Again, there's no offense taken at all. I hope I answered your questions ok!
I know that your beliefs may not be every Asatru's beliefs, but I am trying to get a better understanding. Again, this is not meant to offend you religious sensibilities in any way.
Thank you for your time.
Not a problem, mate.
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