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Subj: Re: You've got to be kidding me here right?
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 at 07:09:26 pm EDT (Viewed 179 times)
Reply Subj: Re: You've got to be kidding me here right?
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 at 03:46:37 pm EDT (Viewed 171 times)
Quote:Where do you guys get your info????
From the comics themselves.
Quote:Galactus doesn't have the power to override the enchantments. Thor acknowledged this per my scan.
How does Thor SAYING it prove a goddamn thing? Oh, that's right, it doesn't. It's just Thor talking. Of course Galactus could overpower Mjolnir's enchantments.
Quote:As far as the Enchanters go, to say that they were individually inferior to Odin doesn't tell the whole story here does it?
Yes, it does. Brona, Magnir, and Enrakt were individually nothing to Odin. Forsung was clearly the most powerful of the bunch, because he had the authority to depower his brothers. And he still got stomped.
Quote:You guys are reaching for straws to say Hela, Dormammu or G could override the enchantments placed on the hammer.
Dormammu was able to transform Thor back into Blake. I'm sure he could manipulate Mjolnir's other enchantments. Loki was able to overcome Mjolnir's enchantment with a FRACTION of Karnilla's power added to his own -- Hela is even stronger.
Who's being touchy here now? Let's get something straight here.
You will address me in a respectful manner and will not use profanity in your posts when addressing me. If you cannot respond in a civil and polite tone, DO NOT reply. I will overlook your insolence this time only. Is that clear to you?
As I stated before, there is no evidence that G can overpower Odin's enchantments but there is evidence G has had a hard time dealing with magical/mystical energy. A couple of quick examples come to mind:
Galactus couldn't locate Magnus without kidnapping a mortal (Dr. Strange) to aid him. He needed the Sorcerer Supreme to assist him in traveling across the dimensions.
Galactus couldn't overpower to consume the mystical planet Wraith World (in which he swore he would) without it killing him.
Again you are SPECULATING that he could overcome the enchantments. Where are your FACTS?
In response to your scan, YES, the Enchanters individually are less than Odin. In Thor # 145, (I posted a scan) Forsung took power (as you stated) from the other two Enchanters and battled one-on-one against Odin.
What you happen to leave out is the FACT that Odin also depowered Thor and other Asgardians to aid him in winning that battle (in scan). If Forsung was just "stomped" as you say, Odin would have done just that without the aid of Thor's and the other Asgardians energy to boost his power as well.
As far as you last statement: "Dormammu was able to transform Thor back into Blake. I'm sure he could manipulate Mjolnir's other enchantments. Loki was able to overcome Mjolnir's enchantment with a FRACTION of Karnilla's power added to his own -- Hela is even stronger."
Dormammu's power was augmented by the evil eye at that time. Dormammu alone has never displayed the level of power to manipulate or override Odin's enchantments.
Please cite the Loki reference but do so only in a respectful manner.