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Markus Astropithicus

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Khamsin

Subj: The internet is a very powerful tool
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 at 11:58:32 am EDT (Viewed 11 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Ares = Thor --how can anyone take Marvel or Marvel's characters and storylines credibly when
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 10:45:01 pm EDT (Viewed 17 times)

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you have writers with clear biases and skewed viewpoints given freedom to portray MU characters in any way their biases might point?

Bendis is actually being less-than-honest about this as I believe he actually thinks Ares is greater than Thor --most will recall some threads from a couple of years ago when he expressed that opinion, including confirming that we would see Ares defeat Thor at some time

it is beginning to appear that time is coming

can anyone tell me why I shouldn't believe MU EDit has it out for Thor? how many more of these sorts of things and portrayals are "in the works" --how many more writers with such viewpoints will be working on Thor stories

does Bendis view lend credence to the opinions of Thor fans who have felt and expressed that Seige contained bad showigns for Thor and for Asgardians?

why aren't there a bunch of Pro-Thor authors writing stories showing Thor kicking @$$ at his full potential, showings equalling in number and extreme as those we've been subjected to with Thor on the receiving end?

I think that we all need to grow up here. The leadership at marvel has made the decision that Thor is a second-tier character. It's not a vast anti-Thor conspiracy or a calculated plot hatched by some comic book cabal to upset and frustrate Thor fans. It is an editorial decision made by the people who manage these intellectual properties. And if the editors at Marvel have decided that Ares, the Hulk or Aunt Mae is superior to Thor then that's just the way it is. And if they decide to revise continuity and re-imagine old Avengers adventures (like they have recently) to show the Hulk capable of defeating Thor plus all the original Avengers or show Ultimate Thor as second tier as well, what can we do about it?

We can deal with Thor as he is now in 2009 or not. Referencing the "original intent" of Stan and Jack is pointless. Pointing out Thor feats of power and strength is useless. Complaining about inconsistency in writing or why Thor is often portrayed as a no-fighting blockhead is also useless. No amount of complaining will help the matter. Either buy the books and accept them for what they are or stop buying/reading and discover another pastime or another favorite character.

I like Thor's new look but don't always like his portrayals--oh well. This is analogous to being a Montreal Canadiens fan and bemoaning that this team is not like the good old days with Lafleur and Dryden and Shutt and Robinson. And asking why this player isn't more physical or this other player seems afraid to shoot or this goalie couldn't stop a beach ball, etc. This is not 1976-79 and this year's squad just is not that good. So we can either watch the games or watch something else.

Understand that this little missive is not a personal attack, it's just an assessment of reality.


What you mean by "grow up" is actually "give up."

All those illiterate, raging hulk fans got what they wanted by complaining whenever the Hulk was shown to have anything less than "UNLIMTAD STRENT." And Wolverine fans have pushed for their character so hard that Wolverine, a regular human with adamantium laced bones (correctly speaking both Hulk and Thor are more than strong enough to crush them), is able to take on Hulk and Thor!

Thor fans have been far too polite for too long. If we want our character (our collective Totem*, if you will) to be portrayed in better light we need to be as aggressive in our lobbying efforts as those Hulk and Wolverine supporters.


*To have a Totem is a natural human trait as shown in both modern culture and in every ancient culture. Some choose animals, some choose inanimate or abstract objects, other choose actual humans, and many choose fictional characters from myth, legend, and TV shows.


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