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Subj: I think as a mortal it is understandable...
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 at 07:10:45 pm EST (Viewed 142 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Hercules the murderer? Preview of "Herc #1"
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 at 11:44:08 pm EST (Viewed 22 times)

    I wouldn't call it murder (Hercules is now mortal and was defending himself against opponents who were clearly threatening his life), but my initial reaction wouldn't be to call it very heroic either, even in the mythological sense. A few goons on a train are no match for someone with Hercules' fighting skill given that he is heavily armed with a variety of powerful mythological weapons. I mean, for some regular guy like you or me, that would be pretty heroic, but for Hercules? Meh. Even as a mortal I don't see it.

Agree we have to see the full story, but the following was what I posted elsewhere where I can see it is justifiable:

In regards to Hercules killing, I too am mixed. Just encouraging lethal vigliantism is dangerous. One reason it is tolerated in Marvel is guys like Spider-Man and Daredevil rarely if ever kill. The ones that do are usually selective enough that they rarely if ever kill the wrong person in the crossfire. Otherwise, they would be hunted down.

Hercules is a bit different though. He comes from an age where killing was necessary just to survive in his life. In fact, for most of human history all over the world what he did would probable be called self-defense and justified. He would be hailed as a hero for what he did. Afterall, he was attacked first and warned them.

Hercules also has two other disadvantages of sorts compared to other street-levelers. If I understand correctly this is the first time Hercules has been a normal human. Even as a demi-god he had physical strength and toughness far beyond what humans were capable of. He has spent most of his life as a full god where nothing could hurt him. He could afford to be more merciful and carefree in battle because of this. Now he can't take that chance any more. Bullets no longer bounce off him. He is much easier to injure and kill. If he fails in battle not only does he lose but the ones he protects lose as well.

The second disadvantage is training and life. Most street levelers have been trained to try and handle situations without killing. Their thinking is generally geared toward that first and lethal force only as a last resort. Hercules has been trained that when one fights in actual battle one kills. Training and sporting events are one thing, but an actual battle is supposed to be kill or be killed. He has had that mentality for thousands of years. To survive for that long he has had to embrace that mentality. It doesn't just go away over night. Now that he is in a situation where he can no longer joke around in battle I can see why he has embraced that.

Is Hercules still a hero? I think in the eyes of that girl he saved and to the definitions he has lived with for most of his life and in many cultures the answer is yes.