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Subj: Re: Flaw in Writing....
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Not so sure about that.Gods may be supernatural but that doesnt mean they are beyond understanding or that they are immune to science.Certainly a genius like Richards could comprehend and combat them given the chance.The Gods of marvel have never been shown as unbeatable by science.There are plenty of plain mortals that have mastered magic.Magic itself has laws that govern it though what they are differs all the time.Using scientific method doesnt change what it is,it allows understanding like bubonic plague or polio.We know what they are and how to deal with them but they are still the same.Also Richards obviously doesnt understand everything or he would have stopped Thor from becoming the residence of the "dead" gods.
The gods must have weaknesses or every story would end with Odin or Thor,or blank noticed what was going on and simply destroyed the threat.Takes the drama out of everything.NOTE-the above reply in no way means I like Ultimate Thor stories or the way he is usually portrayed.Taking a guess I suspect Richards is in for a surprise from the gods before its over.

Yes, as I said I do not believe the gods are unbeatable. However, "supernatural" is by definition not reducible by terms understandable in the natural world, i.e., scientific method. The story portrayed this human collective as simply finding a unique energy pattern and then neutralizing an entire race of gods with no effort, including Odin.

I think that this story would have been more credible if either:

1. The gods were actually aliens with some unique genetic oddity that no one cold figure out until Richards, or

2. The collective attacked the Asgardians and lost. Then, Richards not grasping how he could lose as everything was mathematically in his favor, embraces and learns magic, taps into it and combined with science defeats the Asgardians. The merging of magic and science would thus prove too much for the Asgardians and they would fall.

I don't like this result either. But I think either scenario above would have paid respect to the Asgardians and maintained their stature in the Ultimate Universe.


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