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Late Great Donald Blake
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Upper_Krust

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Subj: I actually think this is a pretty thoughtful response.
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 at 04:11:25 pm EST (Viewed 87 times)
Reply Subj: So just to clarify...
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 at 01:46:31 pm EST (Viewed 95 times)

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    but accusing them of being unathletic as an out of shape shlub is quite another. And I think that's more tightly analogous with someone who can't or doesn't write telling other people they make their living off of it that there work is crap.


You are trying to say that someone cannot understand something unless they do it (at presumably the same level) themselves. Which is total nonsense. Extending your lack of logic to its extreme how can Donny write about Thor when he's never been an immortal super-hero himself?


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    I mean would anyone actually dispute it takes vastly more talent and more balls to make something and put it out their, than to go around not contributing and anonymously talking about how this that is awful and doesn't meet your so called high standards?


...according to LGDB you cannot criticise ANYONE for ANYTHING unless you have the same profession (and presumably all the other attributes we can't refer to on this forum).

Can we assume LGDB extends the same courtesy to criticisms of politicians or their policies. \(euh\)

So Donny Cates is beyond reproach and all reviews of his work should just be 10/10 from now on (as per the shill media). Dissenting voices will not be tolerated.

...and to be honest Norvell - you have basically signed up to all this.

Don't be surprised when Marvel end up giving Thor the same treatment that DC are giving Superman right now.

When you let people who hate characters, write those characters, don't expect good things.

You are trying to say that someone cannot understand something unless they do it (at presumably the same level) themselves. Which is total nonsense. Extending your lack of logic to its extreme how can Donny write about Thor when he's never been an immortal super-hero himself?


LGDB: lol I mean that's a fun comic analogy. But no. But IF immortals were real and existed in our world, and then regular mortals posted constantly about how to be the God of Thunder having no experience, know how etc, should be better at being God's, despite not knowing a thing about being a God, that'd be a closer analogy. My point is more that art and writing are ones of those things where people feel free to criticize publicly and mercilessly despite having no idea how to do it. And people free to do that because there's no pressure to be good or fair at being a critic. In our society now, critic means license to crap on things, and everyone's a critic.



according to LGDB you cannot criticise ANYONE for ANYTHING unless you have the same profession (and presumably all the other attributes we can't refer to on this forum).

Can we assume LGDB extends the same courtesy to criticisms of politicians or their policies. \(euh\)

So Donny Cates is beyond reproach and all reviews of his work should just be 10/10 from now on (as per the shill media). Dissenting voices will not be tolerated.

...and to be honest Norvell - you have basically signed up to all this.

Don't be surprised when Marvel end up giving Thor the same treatment that DC are giving Superman right now.

When you let people who hate characters, write those characters, don't expect good things.



LGDB: you can do whatever you want. My point isn't what people should have qualifications to express an opinion. My point is more about there being a disparity between how easy it is to criticize something even when you don't know how to do it, and have never risked doing it versus actually knowing how to do that thing. If you can make a good argument about something, I don't care if you're qualified (whatever that means) if the argument is good. My point here is about our character, our humility or lack there of, not our epistemology.

I think the political argument here doesn't work. I think you make a good point that at some level my point about artists should also apply to politicians, in that I don't know what it's like to be one or know how hard it is to be one. But I think the difference is that as a citizen, you're going to be affected (often times at life and death stakes) by the consequences of political policy. So the citizen who criticizes the politician does so not on the basis
of expertise or understanding of the process of politics, but instead on the basis of their being a stakeholder, i.e. they're going to suffer the consequences of bad politics. In contrast, no one is forcing us to read these comics, and if the comics don't come out to our liking we're not seriously affected by it.


Also, where are you getting the idea that these creators hate these characters? That seems very left field to me. I think Donny Cates is a self professed Thor fan.


cheers,
--- the late great Donald Blake


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