Previous Post Quote: Not in terms of dress obviously, but more rough and ready. Like a starving homeless man is 'ready' to jump the soup queue at the shelter. Quote: Like someone fully capable of killing someone with a giant hammer. ...if he could muster up the strength to lift it...were the hammer not a rebellious female intelligence - suppressed for decades by the patriarchy. Quote: I definitely see what you guys are saying about him looking more gaunt. That's basically just how Nic Klein does faces. I totally understand not loving it, but it's not really something he applies just to Thor. It applies to most of the male characters in Marvel. Heroic proportions are out of fashion at the House of Progressive Ideas. Quote: I'm not getting the idea that he's more dirty, but certainly tired. Thor's kinda going through it in this story so it makes sense they're going for haggard here. He's been haggard since the start of the run and probably most of Aaron's previous run! Quote: But I disagree he's not muscular. Quite the contrary. See pics You cherry picked that cover piece - the one place they still might try to con those of lapsed interest Thor is still a positive role model. The artist probably hadn't got the editorial mandate at that point to make him look like a depressed septuagenarian. Use some of the interior art from the past year. Is there a healthy, muscular Thor anywhere to be found? Quote: That being said I'm pretty glad They're not trying to make him look like a model who body builds. That stuff always looks kinda like a parody of what a viking god warrior would look like. He should look like a 'roided superhuman male model (like the headline banner in this forum). He's an aspirational ideal, not every other average looking guy you meet who is having a bad day. Quote: I gotta tell you man, I love Nic Klein's Thor. I don't think it's denigrating at all. Quite the opposite. LOL. Quote: P.S. for here's a pic of a famous Thor image... do you really think Klein Thor is smaller? Cherry picked - lets see some interiors. That art is probably what Klein thought he would look like in the run before he was told to draw a scraggly, depressed vagrant.

I don't know man. I just think you're being a bit paranoid. Like, I don't think these authors are all consciously ideologically motivated to girlify men or suborniate them to castrating women or anything. Okay... maybe Jason Aaron lol


Like a starving homeless man is 'ready' to jump the soup queue at the shelter.

LGDB: I feel like you don't have a lot of experience with homeless people. But I'll tell you what, if I met one with a Thor hammer I would definitely give him money.



...if he could muster up the strength to lift it...were the hammer not a rebellious female intelligence - suppressed for decades by the patriarchy.


LGDB: I feel like you almost know too much about this stuff lol



It applies to most of the male characters in Marvel. Heroic proportions are out of fashion at the House of Progressive Ideas.


LGDB: Wait so you think Marvel artists are ALL (or mostly) trying to denigrate men? (What about the guys that have been working there for a while?



You cherry picked that cover piece - the one place they still might try to con those of lapsed interest Thor is still a positive role model

The artist probably hadn't got the editorial mandate at that point to make him look like a depressed septuagenarian.

Use some of the interior art from the past year. Is there a healthy, muscular Thor anywhere to be found?


LGDB: Thor IS a positive role model! Do you REALLY think it's an editorial mandate. And yeah absolutely lots of muscular Thor.

And do you really think there's an editorial mandate?

And I added some interiors here. I dunno man. He looks pretty yoked to me.


He should look like a 'roided superhuman male model (like the headline banner in this forum). He's an aspirational ideal, not every other average looking guy you meet who is having a bad day.


LGDB: yeah, but roided up male models aren't even that strong relative to like power lifters and stuff. And I think you're exaggerating about him looking small. Plus their are plenty of Thor artists in the past that didn't make Thor much bigger if at all bigger. I don't think Walt's Thor is bigger than Klein's for instance.




That art is probably what Klein thought he would look like in the run before he was told to draw a scraggly, depressed vagrant.


LGDB: I don't know man. Are you sure you're not being paranoid?



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