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Menshevik

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Subj: Re: Not a fan of something else about this.......
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2022 at 07:25:05 am EST (Viewed 72 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Not a fan of something else about this.......
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 at 06:12:48 am EST (Viewed 82 times)



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    After all these years, a character that was killed off for assorted reasons, including redundancy as I recall, is coming back yet still will be redundant for awhile as his brother Warpath is around, unless he can establish himself in a big way....



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    .....yet Captain Mar-Vell remains dead.



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    The apparent revival of him in the Last of the Marvels story in the Captain Marvel series looks to be an under-powered clone.



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    Which means by that story's end Clone-Vell will likely be dead. Or even if this really is Mar-Vell back at reduced power level, they will kill him off again.



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    Bucky returns after decades of being on the "never revive" list, his death for decades was the "sacred death" in Captain America that must never be undone. Also Stan Lee didn't want kid sidekicks.


I'm still of the opinion that a) reviving the Golden-Age Bucky was a bad idea, and b) that Winter Soldier, as a Cold War character, probably would better be described as an all-new character masquerading as Bucky in order to cynically exploit Bucky Barnes' existing fame and the notoriety of his death. (That he is a different character from the original Bucky IMO is supported by the fact that Brubaker, as I was informed in a CBR debate by Dan Slott, essentially called into question all of Bucky's Golden-Age appearances as being heavily rewritten for war propaganda purposes). Since his introduction leld to the killing-off of another worthwhile character, Jack Monroe (the Bucky of the 1950s and later Nomad), I do not have a high opinion of this storyline and its writer.


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    Jim Hammond/Android Torch was brought back after revelations that the Vision was not rebuilt from him, been depowered and blown up a few times since but still gets repaired and returns. Marvel's first character, yet now he just gets blown up and recycled.



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    Now after decades, Thunderbird is coming back. One of the "sacred" X-men deaths aside from the original demise of the Phoenix back in ish 137, but I think we all knew Phoenix would be back.


Not sure if Thunderbird's death was considered important enough to be rated as "sacred". Back in the day I had hoped that Jean Grey would stay dead, and I still say that her return did much more harm than good.

Re. T-Bird's revival: It's Hickman's Krakoa-clone business. \:\( Since now every dead mutant and their sibling can be revived, the question no longer is "will John Proudstar ever be revived?" or even "why should the original Thunderbird be revived?", but "why hasn't John Proudstar been revived yet when everyone else has been?", because there is no valid, self-explanatory reason to keep him dead. Also, IIRC, in a previous discussion on him here, some contributors even said that they had already seen him as a background character in some stories, so that he in fact was already alive again.


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    But not Mar-Vell....


Now if only he had been a mutant...! \:P





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